QA問答：如何區(qū)分來我們這里的客人是中國人還是日本人？一張圖引發(fā)的大討論
What is the most Japanese thing ever?
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當我在愛彼迎尋找日本的住宿地點時，我查看了那里的一些評論。以往常見的評論是“……這個地方風景很好，主人很友好等等”。
但是在日本。大多數評論都是這樣的：“有很多可用的電器——吹風機、烤面包機、水壺（……一直列舉下去）。然而房間本來應該是4x5米，結果只有3.8x5米！”
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When I was looking for a place to stay in Japan at AirBnb, I was also checking some reviews there. The common reviews there would be “…this place has a nice view, the host is friendly etc.”. Not in Japan. Most of the reviews there were like “There was a lot of appliances available - hairdrier, toaster, kettle (…and the list goes on). However the room was supposed to be 4x5meters, but it was only 3.8x5 meters!”
當我在愛彼迎尋找日本的住宿地點時，我查看了那里的一些評論。以往常見的評論是“……這個地方風景很好，主人很友好等等”。
但是在日本。大多數評論都是這樣的：“有很多可用的電器——吹風機、烤面包機、水壺（……一直列舉下去）。然而房間本來應該是4x5米，結果只有3.8x5米！”
當我在愛彼迎尋找日本的住宿地點時，我查看了那里的一些評論。以往常見的評論是“……這個地方風景很好，主人很友好等等”。
但是在日本。大多數評論都是這樣的：“有很多可用的電器——吹風機、烤面包機、水壺（……一直列舉下去）。然而房間本來應該是4x5米，結果只有3.8x5米！”
Later, I also saw this in TAIWAN
后來，我還在臺灣地區(qū)看到了這個
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后來，我還在臺灣地區(qū)看到了這個
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Aside from the orderly Japanese section, the other one that amuses me is the section for combined Hong Kong and Macau and how the people from Hong Kong are visibly determined to ensure their own identity is maintained by sticking to the left.
除了有序的日本部分，另一個讓我感到有趣的是香港和澳門的組合部分，香港人明顯決心通過堅持靠左貼來確保自己的身份。
The relative overcrowding also mirrors the housing situation in HK. I actually never noticed till you mentioned this.
相對的擁擠也反映了香港的住房情況。我其實沒注意到，直到你提到這一點。
I was surprised to see how paranoid the Japanese are, while the Chinese are pretty much the same as us Americans.
我很意外看到日本人是如此的偏執(zhí)，而中國人和我們美國人幾乎一樣。
He's talking about the flags on the image. Hongkong and Macau flags.
他在說圖片上的旗幟。香港和澳門的旗幟。
Adrian’s point is that Hong Kong people does not like to be associated with being from Macau.
他的觀點是香港人不喜歡與澳門人聯(lián)系在一起。
Nah, even if the other flag sharing the same box is other countries Hong Kong people wants to be associated with, most will just be very obedient and keep to the left of the box, because that is the way to show your own identity.
不，即使與之共享同一框的旗幟代表的是香港人喜歡的其他地方，大多數人也會非常順從地堅持靠左，因為這是展示自己身份的方式。
Well true, If there was a poll where my country and another similar country’s flag was in the same section, I'd stick on my own side even if I liked the other country a lot for no reason other than the fact that I’m obxtively from my own country haha. Still interesting to think about.
嗯，確實，如果有一個投票，我的國家和另一個類似國家的旗幟在同一區(qū)域，即使我非常喜歡另一個國家，我也會堅持在自己這邊，因為我確實是來自我的國家哈哈。還是很有趣的想法。
And, by golly, they are going to be orderly about it.
天哪，他們真是井然有序。
Japan and Germany must have been relatives in a previous life.
日本和德國一定是前世的親戚。
Well they both caused a bit of trouble for the allies in WW2.
他們在二戰(zhàn)中都給盟軍帶來了一些麻煩。
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The West conquering the world and them trying to stop them.
西方征服世界，而他們試圖阻止他們。
No, just, no. Please get help. Our countries did a lot wrong back then.
不，絕對不。請去尋求幫助。我們的國家當時做了很多錯事。
The “West” is who?
“西方”是誰？
As a Malaysian which worked in both Germany & Japan, America for a while and of course my own country, i must say they are very systematic structured people when working as a team.
Other societies are a mess to get teams to work together. Chinese is the hardest to deal with followed by Americans.
As for my countrymen, we are just a bunch of idiots when compared to all.
Societies need to stop thinking in terms of me but more to us and for the good of all.
As for Malaysians, we still need alot of education and exposure.
作為一個曾在德國、日本、美國和我自己的國家工作過的馬來西亞人，我必須說他們在團隊工作時是非常有系統(tǒng)性和紀律性的人。
其他社會讓團隊合作簡直是一團糟。中國人是最難相處的，其次是美國人。
至于我的同胞，和所有人相比，我們只是一群白癡。
社會需要停止以自我為中心，而更多地考慮我們以及全體的利益。
至于馬來西亞人，我們仍然需要大量的教育和提升。
Please prove it m(._.)m
請證明它 m(._.)m
What about the Axis during WW2. Japan and Germany allied together because they both thought they were superior races during WW2.
二戰(zhàn)期間的軸心國呢。日本和德國結盟是因為他們都認為自己是二戰(zhàn)期間的優(yōu)越種族。
that's wrong. Hitler actually perceived the Japanese as an inferior race. When the Japanese defeated the British Eastern Fleet at Malaya, Hitler said: "As an ally we are happy, but as Aryans, we must be sad."
那是錯的。希特勒實際上認為日本人是一個低等種族。當日本人在馬來亞擊敗英國東部艦隊時，希特勒說：“作為盟友我們很高興，但作為雅利安人，我們必須感到悲傷。”
tomayto, tomahto and potayto, potahto. Japan and Germany were committing massacres during WW2. At least Germany apologized what they have done to Jewish. Japan on the other hand, have never written the correct history in their history books, shame on Japan!
番茄，番茄，土豆，土豆。日本和德國在二戰(zhàn)期間犯下了屠殺罪行。至少德國為他們對猶太人所做的事道歉了。而日本則從未在他們的歷史書中寫下正確的歷史，日本真可恥！
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rightly so. the germans have lifted the entire globe with their creations while rest of the world lived in mud huts. give credit where its due. be grateful and dont resent the success and superiority of others.
確實如此。德國人用他們的創(chuàng)造提升了整個世界，而世界其他地方的人還住在泥屋里。該給予贊賞的地方就給予贊賞。心懷感激，不要怨恨他人的成功和優(yōu)越。
Where do you see German flag on this picture?
你在這張圖片上哪里看到德國旗幟了？
Do Japanese people staying at hotels carry measuring tapes with them?
住在酒店的日本人會隨身攜帶卷尺嗎？
of course, we all do. not only that, we also carry scissors, hammers, calculators, bow and arrows, corona vaccines, replica of tokyo tower, sushi, ramen, king sized bed, sofa, book shelf and baseball stadiums as well. at all times.
當然，我們都會。我們不僅帶卷尺，還會帶剪刀、錘子、計算器、弓箭、新冠疫苗、東京塔的復制品、壽司、拉面、特大號床、沙發(fā)、書架和棒球場。隨時帶著。
Was thinking the same thing. There’s probably a smartphone app that would do the job.
我也在想同樣的事情?？赡苡幸粋€智能手機應用程序可以完成這項工作。
There is if you're using a newer iPhone model, it's pretty accurate
如果你使用的是較新的iPhone型號，確實有一個應用程序，它非常準確。
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The Spanish, though not numerous, seem to give themselves plenty of space between the dots on the chart. I'd gather that they value their space.
This pattern seems to parallel their political sphere in the case that Spain is made of distinct autonomous communities and former kingdoms who try to maintain their space and legislative jurisdiction. In other words, a kingdom of kingdoms.
Perhaps I've over-psychoanalysed this but that is my take on the graph.
這種模式似乎與他們的政治領域相平行，因為西班牙由不同的自治社區(qū)和前王國組成，他們試圖保持自己的空間和立法管轄權。換句話說，一個由多個王國組成的王國。
西班牙人雖然人數不多，但似乎在圖表上的點之間給自己留了很多空間。我猜他們很重視自己的空間。
也許我過度心理分析了這個，但這是我對圖表的看法。
Now I’m psychoanalysing the countries’ scattered dots, looking for patterns… Canada attempted a grid towards the lower half of its section, Australia made a bird and I get the feeling China’s citizens are trying to create a character, given the matching ‘swoops’!
現在我在心里分析這些國家的分散點，尋找規(guī)律……加拿大在其部分的下半部分嘗試了一個網格，澳大利亞做了一只鳥，考慮到那些相匹配的‘弧線’我感覺中國的公民在嘗試創(chuàng)造一個字符！
I see a happy face!
China, USA, and South Korea looks like Indonesia’s traffic jam 24/7.
我看到了一張笑臉！
中國、美國和韓國看起來像印度尼西亞的全天候交通堵塞。
Too bad Germany isn’t on that board. They probably would have been just as orderly.
太糟糕了，德國不在那個板上。他們可能也會一樣有序。
I being the poor Indian, keep hoping somewhere my dear country would be listed somewhere as well…other than ‘others’!
作為一個貧窮的印度人，我一直希望我的祖國能在某個地方被列出來……而不是在“其他”中！
What country is the first flag for?
第一個旗幟是哪個國家的？
France
法國
Is that really blue? Looked like black for me. If it is blue, it makes more sense. Black would be very impolite actually.
那真的是藍色嗎？我看起來像是黑色。如果是藍色，就更有意義了。黑色實際上非常不禮貌。
I think it's easy to notice a fortune cat Maneki Neko in Japan. If you speak Vietnamese, try this website to read about them https://meothantaishop.com/pages/meo-than-tai-tu-a-den-z
我認為在日本很容易注意到招財貓。
That AirBnb thing cracked me up :D
那個愛彼迎的事情把我逗笑了。
Based on my experience and knowledge of Japanese people in general and looking at the photos, I would agree with Precision and add that they are all very uniform. Just look at how modest, kind, most of them are and the inclination to stay in order. Based on the stickers alone you can tell the Japanese are the most clean and in order, each person align their sticker with the rest as if socially keeping in order. Then you look at the stickers for other countries, to each their own self and a mess.
This is a generalisation but I’d say the way the Japanese place their stickers speaks a lot for their people’s inner qualities.
An addition to the “precision” quality, I remember reading a story here on Quora of how precise and on-time trains in Japan are, like they're not even a minute early or delayed.
根據我對日本人的經驗和了解，以及看過這些照片后，我同意“精確”的觀點，并補充說他們都非常一致。看看他們的謙遜、友善以及傾向于保持秩序的方式。單憑這些貼紙你就能看出日本人是最干凈、最有秩序的，每個人的貼紙都對齊，好像在社會上保持秩序。然后你再看看其他國家的貼紙，各自為政，亂七八糟。
這是一種概括，但我認為日本人放置貼紙的方式可以說明他們的內在素質。
除了“精確”這個特點，我記得在Quora上看到一個故事，說日本的火車有多么準時，甚至沒有早一分鐘或晚一分鐘。
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Interestingly, some of the orderly behaviour of the Japanese may come down to the so-called Rice Theory in which rice-growing societies are overly communal and collaborative contrasting with more individualistic wheat, barley and corn growing societies. In Japan’s case such behaviour may have become more pronounced due to the nation’s relative isolation.
有趣的是，日本人的一些有序行為可能源于所謂的“稻米理論”，即種植稻米的社會過于集體化和合作，而與種植小麥、大麥和玉米的更具個人主義的社會形成對比。在日本，這種行為可能由于國家相對隔離而更加明顯。
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Does this extend into perfectionism very often?
這是否經常延伸到完美主義？
Order?
No
If this place has a rule written on it: Please line up neatly
Then I admit that this is order
But this is not the case, there are no rules here.
They still do it, I think it is blind obedience
They are thinking: How can I do it? I don’t know, then it can’t be wrong to do the same as others!
This is a typical Japanese mentality. It is easy for the whole country to fall into extremism because of the wrong choices of a few people. This is very dangerous
秩序？
不
如果這個地方寫了一個規(guī)定：請排列整齊
那么，我承認這是秩序
但是事實并非如此，這里沒有任何規(guī)定。
他們依然這么做，我認為這是盲從
他們在想：我怎么做呢？不知道啊，那跟別人一樣總不會錯吧！
這是典型的日本人心態(tài)，很容易因為少數人的錯誤選擇而將整個國家陷入極端主義。這非常危險
Yes. This is why things made in Japan are often well made. But it can lead to too much perfectionism and things being expensive.
是的。這就是為什么日本制造的東西通常做得很好。但這也會導致過度完美主義和物品昂貴和浪費。
Shouldn’t the EU ones be combined?
歐盟的不應該合并嗎？
Not from a marketing perspective where the filtered data can be used to target advertising and associated budgets.
從營銷角度來看，不應該。過濾后的數據可以用來定位廣告和相關預算。
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Sir, sorry I can’t understand
先生，對不起，我看不懂
Look at the response by Japanese to the survey, “Where are you from?”, (top row, 3rd from left), then compare it’s orderliness with the responses by other nationals. NB: Each red dot represents a person/group.
看看日本人對調查的回應，“你來自哪里？”，（最上排，左三），然后將其與其他國家的回應進行比較。注意：每個紅點代表一個人/群體。
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Oh. Got it. Thanks.
哦，明白了。謝謝。
Somebody actually measured the dimensions of the room?
真的有人測量了房間的尺寸嗎？
i don’t know the meaning the survey? you said the precision only because they stick the label on straight lines?
我不明白這個調查的意義？你說的精確只是因為他們把標簽貼在直線上？
The American one is quite interesting too. You will notice they tried to give each other some space.
美國的也很有趣。你會注意到他們試圖互相留一些空間。
Except the 2 last Japanese tourists who said “&^%$ it.”
除了最后兩個說“尼瑪”的日本游客。
we can see most of Japanese are following the rules like they respect to their emperor.
我們可以看到大多數日本人都遵守規(guī)則，就像他們尊重他們的天皇一樣。
the survey is writed by English and traditional Chinese(in Japan 2 main foreign language).look at the other billboard.justlike in HongKong.
調查是用英語和繁體中文寫的（在日本這兩種是主要的外語）?？纯戳硪粋€公告板，就像在香港一樣。
France is the first flag - the brits must be pissed haha
法國是第一個旗幟——英國人一定很生氣哈哈
I like how they are curious to know “other Europe” and then everyone else. Seems a wee bit racist to me.
我喜歡他們如何好奇地想知道“其他歐洲”，然后是所有其他人。這對我來說似乎有點種族主義。
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I remember seeing a TikTok with this, but instead of the Spanish flag there was a Mexican flag and the red dots where organized in the form of a sentence “Puto el que lo lea.” which can translate to “If you can read this, you gay.”
我記得在TikTok上看到過這個，但不是西班牙國旗，而是墨西哥國旗，紅點排列成一句話“Puto el que lo lea.”，可以翻譯成“如果你能讀懂這個，你是同性戀?！?/b>
I love to see how every frx is counted in this case.
我喜歡看到在這種情況下每一個點都被計算在內。
“However the room was supposed to be 4x5meters, but it was only 3.8x5 meters!” That is not a good quality of personality.
“然而房間本該是4x5米的，但實際只有3.8x5米！” 這不是一種好的性格品質。
No one noticed that Singapore section has a happy face.
沒有人注意到新加坡部分有一個笑臉。
Also their dovetail cuts in wood are insane, the quality is unreal on a lot of old Shinto temples-no nails or screws, just wood cut and wedges expertly together (by hand!).
他們在木材上的榫卯結構也很瘋狂，很多舊的神道教寺廟的質量是非凡的——沒有釘子或螺釘，只是木頭切割并巧妙地契合在一起（手工！）。
That's just a crude imitation of China
那只是對中國的粗糙模仿
Not worthy, they can use technology
不值得，他們可以使用科技
Hong Kong and Macau looks interesting too. I wonder what people do if they had Taiwan and China flags.
香港和澳門也很有趣。我想知道如果他們有臺灣地區(qū)和中國的旗幟，人們會怎么做。
Neatness
整潔
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Japan’s section looks very organized
日本的部分看起來非常有條理
Malaysia,,n,,no much dot..i wonder what is the point of that dot..
馬來西亞，沒什么點。。我想知道那個點的意義是什么。。
@嘉郭
我想說第一張照片似乎是在臺灣地區(qū)拍的，而不是日本。因為公告上的語言是中文……
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This survey by Japan was not for Hindus but for Musli.... They can live in densely populated places. Hindus worship lord Sun and not bury the dead like Musli.../Christians. So hindus need place to burn effigies/death and welcome “a change”. How can HINDUS live in limited space?
日本的這項調查不是針對印度教徒的，而是針對穆斯林的。他們可以住在人口密集的地方。印度教徒崇拜太陽神，不像穆斯林/基督徒那樣埋葬死者。所以印度教徒需要地方燒毀人像/尸體并迎接“變化”。印度教徒怎么能住在有限的空間里呢？
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?? ???? ???? ???? ??…
共產國家確實喜歡排隊……
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In Japanese cities, space is at a premium.
The large cities are overcrowded and stifling.
The only time to really feel any freedom is very early morning when nobody is around.
在日本城市，空間非常寶貴。
大城市過于擁擠，令人窒息。
唯一能真正感受到自由的時間是清晨沒有人的時候。
I have a feeling that if it were done by Chinese, the comments would talk about how brain-washed and robot-like the Chinese are.
我覺得如果是中國人這么貼，這些評論會說中國人如何被洗腦，像機器人一樣。
Unfortunately, that is very true. A lot of people these days have biased thinking.
不幸的是，這確實是真的。如今很多人都有偏見的想法。
no need to worrry because that won’t happen. The Chinese lacks societal discipline
不必擔心，因為那不會發(fā)生。中國人缺乏社會紀律。
Can see British people started by trying to be organised and in neat rows and then couldn't be arsed after 3 stickers, typical
可以看到英國人一開始試圖保持有序，排成整齊的隊列，然后貼了三個標簽后就懶得繼續(xù)了，典型的
Love how the Brits started off being orderly before going, ‘screw it’!
喜歡英國人一開始很有秩序，然后“算了”的樣子！