“不可靠”的英國沒有事先被告知以色列對伊朗的襲擊
‘Unreliable’ UK not told in advance about Israel’s attack on Iran
譯文簡介
“我不希望我們的國家與以色列持續(xù)進行的種族滅絕扯上任何關(guān)系?！薄短┪钍繄蟆穲蟮?。
正文翻譯
‘Unreliable’ UK not told in advance about Israel’s attack on Iran
-Senior government source says refusal to share information shows Britain is not regarded as a reliable partner
“不可靠”的英國沒有事先被告知以色列對伊朗的襲擊
——高級政府消息人士表示，拒絕分享信息表明英國不被視為可靠的合作伙伴
(Sir Keir Starmer has recently placed sanctions on two far-right Israeli ministers.)
（基爾·斯塔默最近對兩名極右翼以色列部長實施了制裁。）
新聞：
The UK was not officially informed about Israel’s attack on Iran before it happened and provided no support to the mission, it is understood, highlighting the deteriorating relationship between the two countries.
據(jù)了解，在以色列襲擊伊朗之前，英國沒有得到正式通知，也沒有為這次行動提供任何支持，這突顯了兩國之間日益惡化的關(guān)系。
Diplomats said it appeared Israel no longer considered the UK to be a “reliable partner” after Sir Keir Starmer placed sanctions on two far-right Israeli ministers this week.
外交官們表示，在基爾·斯塔默爵士本周對兩名極右翼以色列部長實施制裁后，以色列似乎不再認(rèn)為英國是一個“可靠的伙伴”。
Military planners inside the Ministry of Defence were braced for the strikes on Thursday night. However, the UK appeared to have been cut out of the loop on the operation, despite being involved in previous strikes.
國防部內(nèi)部的軍事規(guī)劃者已經(jīng)做好了周四晚上空襲的準(zhǔn)備。然而，英國似乎被排除在行動之外，盡管它參與了之前的襲擊行動。
An emergency Cobra meeting has been held to discuss the threat to British citizens in Iran and Israel. There is an ongoing review of whether the embassy should remain open in Tehran.
一場緊急眼鏡蛇會議召開，討論在伊朗和以色列的英國公民面臨的威脅。目前正在審查英國駐德黑蘭大使館是否應(yīng)該繼續(xù)開放。
The prime minister’s spokesman confirmed “the UK did not participate in Israel’s strikes overnight”, and MoD sources were quick to dispute any suggestion that the RAF had taken part in any military action to knock out Iranian drones. A senior government source said: “They’ve clearly made the calculation [that] we are not a reliable partner.”
首相的發(fā)言人證實“英國并沒有參與以色列突然發(fā)起的空襲”，而國防部的消息來源很快就否認(rèn)了英國皇家空軍參與了任何打擊伊朗無人機的軍事行動。一名高級政府消息人士表示：“他們顯然認(rèn)為我們不是一個可靠的合作伙伴?！?br />
David Lammy, the foreign secretary, had been due to travel to Washington DC on Friday, but the meeting was cancelled at the last minute.
外交大臣戴維·拉米原定于周五前往華盛頓，但會議在最后一刻被取消。
The United States said it was not involved in the attack, describing the Israeli action as unilateral, although that is likely to change if US personnel are targeted in the region.
美國表示，它沒有參與這次襲擊，稱以色列的行動是單方面的，盡管如果美國人員在該地區(qū)成為襲擊目標(biāo)，這種說法可能會改變。
In April last year, the UK deployed RAF Typhoons to help shoot down drones fired by Iran. The UK was also involved to a more limited extent last October during a ballistic missile attack by Tehran.
去年4月，英國部署了皇家空軍臺風(fēng)戰(zhàn)機，幫助擊落伊朗發(fā)射的無人機。去年10月，在德黑蘭的一次彈道導(dǎo)彈襲擊中，英國也在更有限的程度上參與其中。
On Monday, the government was concerned enough to hold a “war game”, led by Lammy, in which departments played out the possibility of a massive Israeli attack on Iran. Military personnel are understood to have taken part. A military source said the primary concern in London was for the safety of British citizens currently in Tehran, and British citizens in Israel. There are also fears that British shipping could be targeted by the Iran-backed Houthi rebel group in Yemen.
周一，政府非常擔(dān)心，舉行了一場由拉米領(lǐng)導(dǎo)的“戰(zhàn)爭推演”，各部門在游推演中模擬了以色列對伊朗發(fā)動大規(guī)模襲擊的可能性。據(jù)悉，軍事人員也參加了推演。一名軍方消息人士稱，倫敦方面最擔(dān)心的是目前在德黑蘭的英國公民和在以色列的英國公民的安全。還有人擔(dān)心，英國船只可能成為伊朗支持的也門胡塞叛軍組織的目標(biāo)。
The senior government source said the UK was having to “walk a diplomatic tight rope” and the priority was the staff in Tehran.
這位高級政府消息人士表示，英國不得不“走一條外交緊繩”，優(yōu)先考慮的是德黑蘭的工作人員。
The UK government has hardened its stance on Israel and Starmer said earlier today: “The reports of these strikes are concerning and we urge all parties to step back and reduce tensions urgently. Escalation serves no one in the region. Stability in the Middle East must be the priority and we are engaging partners to de-escalate. Now is the time for restraint, calm and a return to diplomacy.”
英國政府已經(jīng)加強了對以色列的立場，斯塔默今天早些時候說：“這些襲擊的報道令人擔(dān)憂，我們敦促各方退后一步，緊急緩解緊張局勢。升級對該地區(qū)的任何人都沒有好處。中東的穩(wěn)定必須成為優(yōu)先事項，我們正在與合作伙伴接觸，以緩和局勢?，F(xiàn)在是時候保持克制、冷靜，回到外交途徑上來?！?br />
Earlier in the week the far-right ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich were banned from entering the UK and will have any assets in the UK frozen as part of the measures announced by Lammy. The sanctions were imposed over “repeated incitements of violence against Palestinian communities” in the occupied West Bank.
本周早些時候，極右翼部長伊塔瑪·本-格維和比撒列·斯莫崔琪被禁止進入英國，并將凍結(jié)在英國的任何資產(chǎn)，這是拉米宣布的措施的一部分。制裁是針對在被占領(lǐng)的約旦河西岸“一再煽動針對巴勒斯坦社區(qū)的暴力行為”而實施的。
Starmer was expected to discuss the attacks with Netanyahu in a call on Friday. A Downing Street spokesman said the UK was prepared to take “every diplomatic step” to prevent Iran developing nuclear weapons.
斯塔默預(yù)計將在周五的電話會議上與內(nèi)塔尼亞胡討論空襲事件。英國政府一位發(fā)言人表示，英國準(zhǔn)備采取“一切外交措施”，阻止伊朗發(fā)展核武器。
-Senior government source says refusal to share information shows Britain is not regarded as a reliable partner
“不可靠”的英國沒有事先被告知以色列對伊朗的襲擊
——高級政府消息人士表示，拒絕分享信息表明英國不被視為可靠的合作伙伴
(Sir Keir Starmer has recently placed sanctions on two far-right Israeli ministers.)
（基爾·斯塔默最近對兩名極右翼以色列部長實施了制裁。）
新聞：
The UK was not officially informed about Israel’s attack on Iran before it happened and provided no support to the mission, it is understood, highlighting the deteriorating relationship between the two countries.
據(jù)了解，在以色列襲擊伊朗之前，英國沒有得到正式通知，也沒有為這次行動提供任何支持，這突顯了兩國之間日益惡化的關(guān)系。
Diplomats said it appeared Israel no longer considered the UK to be a “reliable partner” after Sir Keir Starmer placed sanctions on two far-right Israeli ministers this week.
外交官們表示，在基爾·斯塔默爵士本周對兩名極右翼以色列部長實施制裁后，以色列似乎不再認(rèn)為英國是一個“可靠的伙伴”。
Military planners inside the Ministry of Defence were braced for the strikes on Thursday night. However, the UK appeared to have been cut out of the loop on the operation, despite being involved in previous strikes.
國防部內(nèi)部的軍事規(guī)劃者已經(jīng)做好了周四晚上空襲的準(zhǔn)備。然而，英國似乎被排除在行動之外，盡管它參與了之前的襲擊行動。
An emergency Cobra meeting has been held to discuss the threat to British citizens in Iran and Israel. There is an ongoing review of whether the embassy should remain open in Tehran.
一場緊急眼鏡蛇會議召開，討論在伊朗和以色列的英國公民面臨的威脅。目前正在審查英國駐德黑蘭大使館是否應(yīng)該繼續(xù)開放。
The prime minister’s spokesman confirmed “the UK did not participate in Israel’s strikes overnight”, and MoD sources were quick to dispute any suggestion that the RAF had taken part in any military action to knock out Iranian drones. A senior government source said: “They’ve clearly made the calculation [that] we are not a reliable partner.”
首相的發(fā)言人證實“英國并沒有參與以色列突然發(fā)起的空襲”，而國防部的消息來源很快就否認(rèn)了英國皇家空軍參與了任何打擊伊朗無人機的軍事行動。一名高級政府消息人士表示：“他們顯然認(rèn)為我們不是一個可靠的合作伙伴?！?br />
David Lammy, the foreign secretary, had been due to travel to Washington DC on Friday, but the meeting was cancelled at the last minute.
外交大臣戴維·拉米原定于周五前往華盛頓，但會議在最后一刻被取消。
The United States said it was not involved in the attack, describing the Israeli action as unilateral, although that is likely to change if US personnel are targeted in the region.
美國表示，它沒有參與這次襲擊，稱以色列的行動是單方面的，盡管如果美國人員在該地區(qū)成為襲擊目標(biāo)，這種說法可能會改變。
In April last year, the UK deployed RAF Typhoons to help shoot down drones fired by Iran. The UK was also involved to a more limited extent last October during a ballistic missile attack by Tehran.
去年4月，英國部署了皇家空軍臺風(fēng)戰(zhàn)機，幫助擊落伊朗發(fā)射的無人機。去年10月，在德黑蘭的一次彈道導(dǎo)彈襲擊中，英國也在更有限的程度上參與其中。
On Monday, the government was concerned enough to hold a “war game”, led by Lammy, in which departments played out the possibility of a massive Israeli attack on Iran. Military personnel are understood to have taken part. A military source said the primary concern in London was for the safety of British citizens currently in Tehran, and British citizens in Israel. There are also fears that British shipping could be targeted by the Iran-backed Houthi rebel group in Yemen.
周一，政府非常擔(dān)心，舉行了一場由拉米領(lǐng)導(dǎo)的“戰(zhàn)爭推演”，各部門在游推演中模擬了以色列對伊朗發(fā)動大規(guī)模襲擊的可能性。據(jù)悉，軍事人員也參加了推演。一名軍方消息人士稱，倫敦方面最擔(dān)心的是目前在德黑蘭的英國公民和在以色列的英國公民的安全。還有人擔(dān)心，英國船只可能成為伊朗支持的也門胡塞叛軍組織的目標(biāo)。
The senior government source said the UK was having to “walk a diplomatic tight rope” and the priority was the staff in Tehran.
這位高級政府消息人士表示，英國不得不“走一條外交緊繩”，優(yōu)先考慮的是德黑蘭的工作人員。
The UK government has hardened its stance on Israel and Starmer said earlier today: “The reports of these strikes are concerning and we urge all parties to step back and reduce tensions urgently. Escalation serves no one in the region. Stability in the Middle East must be the priority and we are engaging partners to de-escalate. Now is the time for restraint, calm and a return to diplomacy.”
英國政府已經(jīng)加強了對以色列的立場，斯塔默今天早些時候說：“這些襲擊的報道令人擔(dān)憂，我們敦促各方退后一步，緊急緩解緊張局勢。升級對該地區(qū)的任何人都沒有好處。中東的穩(wěn)定必須成為優(yōu)先事項，我們正在與合作伙伴接觸，以緩和局勢?，F(xiàn)在是時候保持克制、冷靜，回到外交途徑上來?！?br />
Earlier in the week the far-right ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich were banned from entering the UK and will have any assets in the UK frozen as part of the measures announced by Lammy. The sanctions were imposed over “repeated incitements of violence against Palestinian communities” in the occupied West Bank.
本周早些時候，極右翼部長伊塔瑪·本-格維和比撒列·斯莫崔琪被禁止進入英國，并將凍結(jié)在英國的任何資產(chǎn)，這是拉米宣布的措施的一部分。制裁是針對在被占領(lǐng)的約旦河西岸“一再煽動針對巴勒斯坦社區(qū)的暴力行為”而實施的。
Starmer was expected to discuss the attacks with Netanyahu in a call on Friday. A Downing Street spokesman said the UK was prepared to take “every diplomatic step” to prevent Iran developing nuclear weapons.
斯塔默預(yù)計將在周五的電話會議上與內(nèi)塔尼亞胡討論空襲事件。英國政府一位發(fā)言人表示，英國準(zhǔn)備采取“一切外交措施”，阻止伊朗發(fā)展核武器。
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Unreliable partner!
let's remember Israel sold weapons to Argentina at the height of the Falklands War in 1982, - declassified Foreign Office files.
“不可靠的伙伴”！
讓我們記住以色列在1982年馬島戰(zhàn)爭最激烈的時候向阿根廷出售武器——外交部解密文件。
nbs-of-74
And UK army officers trained and served in Jordanian military units when they were fighting Israel in the 50s, kicked Israel out of the Chieftan tank program in the late 60s .
Plus given the current policies towards Israel I'm surprised that people consider this news .
英國軍官在50年代訓(xùn)練并加入與以色列作戰(zhàn)的約旦軍隊，在60年代末將以色列踢出酋長坦克項目。
另外，考慮到目前對以色列的政策，我很驚訝人們會考慮這個消息。
Halbaras
Israel got it's independence via a campaign of terrorism against the British Empire, there's a reason the partition was left to a UN with no ability to enforce it.
Straight after independence they were non-aligned and diplomatically closer to the USSR than the west, whereas Jordan has been a western ally for the entirety of its existence.
以色列通過一場反對大英帝國的恐怖主義運動獲得了獨立，這是聯(lián)合國沒有能力執(zhí)行分治的原因。
獨立后，他們不結(jié)盟，在外交上更接近蘇聯(lián)，而不是西方，而約旦一直是西方的盟友。
geniice
Given the political problems it would have caused the goverment if they had known in advance I suspect they will have been pretty damn pleased not to be informed.
考慮到如果政府事先知道會造成的政治問題，我懷疑他們會非常高興不被告知。
Maitai_Haier
Given that the Prince of Wales CSG and Carl J. Vinson CSG are both fresh in the region and “coincidentally” moved away from the Red Sea towards the Persian Gulf/West Indian Ocean after the Houthi ceasefire in May, my guess is both the U.S. and UK were informed and the UK is playing dumb for domestic political purposes. The U.S. initially denied via Marco Rubio but then Trump posted on social media about knowing all along.
Or it is just a wild series of happenstance that the world’s largest concentration of 5th generation naval fighter jets just happen to be in the area surrounded by air defense ships with full magazines and fresh crews.
考慮到威爾士親王號航母戰(zhàn)斗群和卡爾·J·文森號航母戰(zhàn)斗群都是該地區(qū)的新成員，而且在5月份胡塞?；鸷蟆扒珊系亍睆募t海轉(zhuǎn)移到了波斯灣/西印度洋，我猜美國和英國都得到了通知，英國為了國內(nèi)政治目的而裝傻。美國最初通過馬可·盧比奧否認(rèn)，但后來特朗普在社交媒體上發(fā)帖說一直都知道。
或者說，世界上最龐大的第五代海軍戰(zhàn)斗機恰好被彈藥庫充足、人員充足的防空艦艇包圍著集中出現(xiàn)在該地區(qū)，只是一系列瘋狂的偶然事件。
mobilecheeseWTF is going on?
Tbf, even if they weren't informed, they probably knew. We are definitely spying on them and the current us administration is probably pretty easy to spy on too, given the leaks we have seen.
說實話，即使他們沒有被告知，他們也可能知道。我們肯定在監(jiān)視他們，鑒于我們看到的泄密事件，現(xiàn)任美國政府可能也很容易被監(jiān)視。
machiavelliancarer
Didnt UK jets not help shoot down the iranian drones/missiles?
英國戰(zhàn)機沒有幫助擊落伊朗的無人機和導(dǎo)彈嗎？
seedboy3000
This was in the strikes months ago. No evidence of UK involvement this time. Still a possibility though.
這是幾個月前的空襲。這次沒有英國參與的證據(jù)。不過還是有可能的。
cennep44
We shouldn't have got involved then and I sincerely hope we don't get involved now. Israel can fight its own battles. We never get a scintilla of gratitude or benefit from helping those people anyway.
我們當(dāng)時本不應(yīng)該卷入其中，我真心希望我們現(xiàn)在也不要卷入其中。以色列可以打自己的仗。無論如何，我們從來沒有從幫助這些人的過程中得到一絲感激或好處。
Corvid187
Eh, getting involved then minimised the potential collateral impact of the strikes, allowing both sides to deescalate having 'got their hit in'. It was less a favour to Israel and more to reduce the risk of a larger entanglement later. From a purely self-serving perspective it made sense then, but now the escalation is probably too far to wind in, so stay out would be our best bet.
呃，參與進來可以最大限度地減少空襲的潛在附帶影響，讓雙方都能在“命中目標(biāo)”后緩和局勢。這與其說是對以色列的恩惠，不如說是為了減少日后發(fā)生更大糾葛的風(fēng)險。從純粹的自我服務(wù)的角度來看，這在當(dāng)時是有道理的，但現(xiàn)在升級可能太大了，無法介入，所以置身事外是我們最好的選擇。
cennep44
Maybe. I can see the reasoning for intervening then, although you could also argue that it just emboldens Israel if they think they will always be bailed out by the US / UK / France, and not have to face the consequences of their own actions. Well Iran has just directly stated that if we shoot down Iranian missiles then Iran will attack UK forces. So this all has the capacity to get completely out of control very quickly.
也許吧。我可以看到干預(yù)的理由，盡管你也可以爭辯說，如果以色列認(rèn)為他們總是會得到美國/英國/法國的救助，而不必面對自己行為的后果，這只會讓以色列更加大膽。好吧，伊朗剛剛直接聲明，如果我們擊落伊朗的導(dǎo)彈，那么伊朗將攻擊英國軍隊。所以這一切都有可能很快完全失控。
Corvid187
I think in this case both parties are too committed now for our intervention to be able to meaningfully deescalate things at this point. Israel can't afford to stop now it has an opportunity to disrupt Iran's nuclear program, and Iran can't afford to seem impotent in response to Israel's attacks.
That being said, I am personally skeptical of how credible Iran's threats actually are in this context. They already have their hands full with Israel as is. Escalating to attacking the UK in response to us providing what would amount to relatively insignificant defensive support would add massively to their problems in return for very little. I think us intervening is a bid idea, but more on its own merits, rather than because of the threat of Iranian retaliation.
我認(rèn)為，在這種情況下，雙方現(xiàn)在都太堅定了，目前我們的干預(yù)無法有效地緩和局勢。以色列現(xiàn)在有機會破壞伊朗的核項目，不能就此罷手，伊朗也不能對以色列的攻擊表現(xiàn)出無能為力。
話雖如此，我個人對伊朗的威脅在這種情況下的可信度持懷疑態(tài)度。他們已經(jīng)忙得不可開交了。升級到攻擊英國，以回應(yīng)我們提供的相對微不足道的防御支持，這將大大增加他們的問題，而回報卻很少。我認(rèn)為我們干預(yù)是一個明智的想法，但更多的是基于其本身的好處，而不是因為伊朗報復(fù)的威脅。
am0985
Israel are not allies of the UK. They are at best strategic partners.
If Netanyahu wants to accuse our PM of "emboldening Hamas and being on the wrong side of humanity" then he can go fuck himself TBH.
This point should transcend domestic politics. As much as I *despise* Trump I accept that the alliance with the US is more enduring and so I wouldn't support Starmer using language of this strength against Trump - at least whilst they're both in their respective office at least.
Israel have repeatedly shown themselves to be untrustworthy and hopefully moves like this will further ram home the message that they are not our friends and haven't been for a long time.
以色列不是英國的盟友。他們充其量是戰(zhàn)略伙伴。
如果內(nèi)塔尼亞胡想指責(zé)我們的總理“給哈馬斯壯膽，站在人類錯誤的一邊”，那么他可以去tmd。
這一點應(yīng)該超越國內(nèi)政治。盡管我鄙視特朗普，但我承認(rèn)與美國的聯(lián)盟更持久，所以我不會支持斯塔默使用這種力度的語言（“去tmd”）來反對特朗普——至少在他們都在各自的辦公室的時候。
以色列一再表明自己不值得信任，希望這樣的舉動能進一步傳達出這樣的信息：他們不是我們的朋友，而且已經(jīng)很久不是了。
SimoneNonvelodico
It honestly seems insane that Netanyahu is so quick to burn goodwill and political capital while also starting wars with pretty much every single country in a 1000 km radius. I get that Israel is militarily powerful but this seems dangerously overconfident, you can't survive in a world in which you have alienated literally everyone. I guess right now they still have the US who are pretty much ride or die but that's about it, they're a having no real allies and a ton of enemies.
老實說，內(nèi)塔尼亞胡這么快就燒毀了善意和政治資本，同時又對半徑1000公里內(nèi)的幾乎每個國家發(fā)動戰(zhàn)爭，這似乎很瘋狂。我知道以色列在軍事上是強大的，但這似乎是危險的過度自信，你無法在一個你已經(jīng)疏遠(yuǎn)了所有人的世界中生存。我猜現(xiàn)在他們還有很大程度上堅守到底的美國，但僅此而已，他們沒有真正的盟友，有一大堆敵人。
Wgh555
It is insane. They might be very rich but for all their presence on the world stage, they’re less than 10 million people. Iran alone is nearly 90 million. Without western support, not sure how long they’d last tbh.
這太瘋狂了。他們可能非常富有，但他們在世界舞臺上的存在加起來，他們的人口也不到1000萬。僅伊朗就有近9000萬人口。沒有西方的支持，不知道他們能堅持多久。
SimoneNonvelodico
I suppose they always have the nuclear threat but that makes it even scarier because while that's power, it's not world ending power in their case, so the deterrence is limited. If a sufficiently determined coalition of enemies decided they could suffer one or two nuclear strikes in exchange for getting to invade them, it would be one of the bloodiest and most horrible wars ever, and the second nuclear war after WW2, but it wouldn't be unthinkable for someone to go through with it either. Their game theory isn't the same as it was for the Cold War NATO vs Warsaw Pact stalemate, and that's even assuming Iran does not have nuclear weapons and Russia does not in any way put its finger on the scales.
我想他們一直都有核威脅，但這讓情況變得更可怕，因為雖然這是一種力量，但在他們的情況下，這不是終結(jié)世界的力量，所以威懾是有限的。如果一個足夠堅定的敵人聯(lián)盟決定他們能夠扛住一到兩次核打擊，以換取入侵他們，這將變成有史以來最血腥和最可怕的戰(zhàn)爭之一，也是二戰(zhàn)后的第二次核戰(zhàn)爭，但對某些人來說也不是不可想象的。他們的博弈論與冷戰(zhàn)時期北約與華約的僵局不一樣，這甚至是假設(shè)伊朗沒有核武器，俄羅斯也沒有以任何方式插手天平。
pixelface01
Iran getting nuclear weapons is definitely not a good idea , the Saudis will want them what then, does Isreal bomb Saudi I would argue that the current Israeli government isn’t fit to have them either or a reliable partner it’s fairly safe to assume the attacks are as much about regime change as they are about stopping Iran gaining viable nuclear weapons, and that could go very badly ask the Americans,now I get that Israeli policy is to have an unstable Middle East the weaker the less western facing states the better for Israeli security no matter how many Arab lives are lost , it doesn’t help that the Palestinian leadership is equally as bad a sane leadership would have a Palestinian state years ago ,Israel doesn’t have a legal leg to stand on regarding the occupied territories it would have have become the new South Africa ,Isreal is a state propped up by western money ,and western public opinion will win out in the end.
伊朗獲得核武器絕對不是一個好主意，沙特也會想要擁核，然后呢，以色列轟炸沙特嗎？我認(rèn)為目前的以色列政府既不適合擁核，也不適合成為一個可靠的合作伙伴，可以相當(dāng)安全地假設(shè)，此次襲擊是為了顛覆政權(quán)，也為了阻止伊朗獲得可用的核武器，這可能會非常糟糕，問問美國人，現(xiàn)在我知道以色列的政策是有一個不穩(wěn)定的中東，越弱，越不面向西方的國家對以色列的安全越好，不管有多少阿拉伯人喪生。巴勒斯坦的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)同樣糟糕也沒有幫助，換一個理智的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)幾年前就本該有一個巴勒斯坦國了，以色列在被占領(lǐng)的領(lǐng)土上沒有法律依據(jù)，它可能會成為新的南非，以色列是一個由西方資金支持的國家，西方輿論最終會勝出。
Vargrr
Good.
I'd like to be very unreliable in this conflict as I don't want our country to have anything to do with the GENOCIDE that Israel is perpetuating.
I suspect this news piece came out because the UK embarrassed the USA and toddler Trump by being deeply involved in the Ukrainian attack on Russia's air fields without telling them because they are the unreliable partner.
很好。
我希望在這場沖突中非常不可靠，因為我不希望我們的國家與以色列持續(xù)進行的種族滅絕扯上任何關(guān)系。
我懷疑這篇新聞的出現(xiàn)是因為英國深陷烏克蘭對俄羅斯機場的襲擊而沒有告訴他們，這讓美國和蹣跚學(xué)步的特朗普感到尷尬，因為他們是不可靠的合作伙伴。
Silly_Triker
This likely isn’t true. There’s a lot going on in the background and the UK government is pretty committed to Zionism, but is aware that the public is less and less committed to it. So it becomes buried further and further into the background. We are likely providing passive and active support for Israel in numerous ways that won’t come to light until much later.
這可能不是真的。幕后發(fā)生了很多事情，英國政府非常致力于猶太復(fù)國主義，但意識到公眾對它的承諾越來越少。所以它被越來越深地埋沒在幕后。我們很可能以多種方式為以色列提供了被動和主動的支持，直到很久以后才會曝光出來。
catman_dave
Outside of the far right and British Jewish groups, who exactly was committed to Zionism?
Feels like we had it forced upon us all along, and hopefully that will soon change.
除了極右翼和英國的猶太團體，還有誰致力于猶太復(fù)國主義？
感覺我們一直都是被迫的，希望這種情況能很快改變。